Well, take notes from former FBI undercover operative David Gletty as he tells his story about going behind the scenes of the White Power Movement. The action-packed story of the events uncovers the inner workings of extremists groups that led to the arrest and conviction of dozens of these groups.
Over four years, Gletty and his partner Joe witnessed criminal activity of organizations such as the Ku Klux Klan, the National Socialist Movement, the White Power Movement, the League of the South and Skinhead organizations. The duo reveals their findings in the book Undercover Nazi, available in bookstores for $24.95.
CT: Give us some background about your FBI career.
DG: The case that got me an in with the FBI happened several years ago while my legal militia group was in the Appalachian Trails. We saw other militia groups there training, and they wanted us to join. They said they had joined al Qaeda and had enough materials to make several dirty suitcase nuclear size bombs. The attack was planned to happen at Epcot in Orlando, FL on Hitler’s birthday.
CT: Your major assignment was with the White Power Movement, how did you get them to trust you?
DG: I used my real name, real jobs I’d done, my real address so that I could have a trustworthy source if they ever checked up on me. I hooked up with the groups in central Florida, and that’s when the crazy things started to happen. We had to fight-train with these guys. They’re all into violence, and we gained their confidence by letting them beat our asses. We had to do certain things to let them know we weren’t cops, so we partied with them and not just by drinking beer.
CT: What are some of the crimes you witnessed?
DG: They beat people down on the sidewalk just because of their color, or if they saw a black guy with a white girl, they beat them down. They murdered some Mexican drug dealers in Daytona. They raped young girls who’d show up at parties just being curious. They committed some domestic terrorism in Jacksonville, FL, and they did some drive by shootings where communist festivals were supposed to be held. I never pulled the trigger. I had to be there as “one of the boys,” but I was collecting evidence against them and would never actually be the person committing the crime or be the leader of the people committing the crime.
CT: What were you thinking having to watch those crimes being committed?
DG: At the time, you’re trained to not give up the mission because someone happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. I’m always armed and I could’ve pulled my weapon out and stopped some of it, but I would’ve put my life and the mission we were on in jeopardy. So it really plays with you because you wanted to stop young girls from being raped, and you wanted to stop people from being murdered. But you know that these thugs are going to get what’s coming to them when it all wraps up.
CT: Were you ever almost exposed?
DG: One time at a party, you could tell there was an informant there, some guy that just got out of jail. They were patting this guy down and getting pretty rough with him. Here I am with my recording device on, so all the sudden I had to “use the bathroom” and went to my vehicle to drop the recording device off.
CT: What made the FBI say it was time to move in?
DG: My group was going around robbing drug dealers at gun point. They thought it was like Robin Hood type stuff. We’d set up a meeting with a drug dealer, then go up at gun point and take their drugs, money and even pull out their gold teeth sometimes. So the FBI said, “OK, before any public gets hurt, let’s go ahead and throw down on them.”
CT: Did you shave your head?
DG: No, I pretty much kept the same hairstyle, dressed the same in shorts and a nice shirt.
CT: Did you ever have to wear the Klan attire?
DG: No. Those are reserved for people in the brotherhood.
CT: How long were you undercover?
DG: 4 years
CT: What happened to your personal life during that time?
DG: I could never keep any girlfriends because you always had to lie to them. Some really thought I was a criminal because I was sneaking out real late at night. My mother lived with me, and she always knew what was going on. I was always worried about her, but I had security measures in place, and they’d have to be pretty good to get past what I had.
CT: What experiences prepared you?
DG: The route I took was a little different than going to school and getting groomed in as an FBI agent. I came in as a civilian operative with no real police training and then once I got
in, they showed me how they wanted me to do things. You can come in as a civilian operative if you always keep your eyes open and can uncover a substantial crime that might hurt the public.
CT: What does the FBI look for in applicants?
DG: You never want to get in trouble. If you’ve ever robbed anyone, forget about it. DUI really is not acceptable because that just shows lack of self-control and discipline. They look for you to be in shape, have self-discipline and intelligence.
CT: What quality was important to you while undercover?
DG: Always stay in shape. You’re not going to be chasing anyone. You’re going to be running for your life.
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